Best Pad Contest | Owner | Admin | Moderator | [1] 2 QUOTE Aug 24, 2007 10:48pm DWarrior Poker Addict Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4 Why do you guys think... poker is all about bluffing? It is not. Bluffing is only one small element of a large set of tools available to players. So many people here basically only know to bluff and trap, that's a very flawed way to play poker. QUOTE Aug 25, 2007 6:44am Unlucky Universal Champion Joined: Jul 2007 Location: Some place where I can't date you Posts: 11 Care to expand? ____________________ The Only PRPG Player who's running for rank 13 QUOTE Aug 25, 2007 7:05am DWarrior Poker Addict Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4 Free learning tools are all over, i's just a matter of looking. The first step is to realize that you (anybody, myself included) know very little about poker. People throw the phrase “minutes to learn, lifetime to master” around but don't truly appreciate it. Here is a good anthology of posts to start you off. When you read it, notice how many different sections there are, each a very important concept. Notice that Bluffing and slowplaying only have 2 links each. Notice also that the two links that say “slowplay” also have “is very rarely correct” right next to it. http://www.pr0crast.com/2+2.NL.Anthology.v1.htm QUOTE Aug 27, 2007 8:51pm Unlucky Universal Champion Joined: Jul 2007 Location: Some place where I can't date you Posts: 11 Thanks ____________________ The Only PRPG Player who's running for rank 13 QUOTE Sep 1, 2007 1:36am spectre84 Amateur Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 1 when you do bluffs, do it in he later stages of the game when you have a good idea on how a player plays his hands, always watch how that player makes his move on the table. to me bluff is instilling doubt on the player which would cause him to back down. and that could be one of the reasons why it is “slowplay”, etc etc... QUOTE Nov 10, 2007 10:06pm eagleeyes1970 Regionally Known Joined: Nov 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 6 One other thing people have forgotten is that you want to try and keep people in the hand,without raising to high to build the pot. This builds the pot, too many people just jump in and bet high and that does nothing but get people aggravated and makes the game boring. QUOTE Nov 11, 2007 2:46am GoldStubb Universal Champion Joined: Sep 2007 Location: St. Paul, MN Posts: 32 Eagle, I have no idea what the second sentence is about, but your first is almost word-for-word the definition of slowplaying. QUOTE Nov 12, 2007 2:33pm Unlucky Universal Champion Joined: Jul 2007 Location: Some place where I can't date you Posts: 11 I think what the second sentence means is that maniacs lure everyone to overbet and get them out of their game. The result being several players jump the pot with all ins and you end up with a table that's playing bingo with the winner of the multi-massacre often difficult to upseat due to the large chip lead they have. Even worse, if the chip leader slow plays. The newbies like us just end up folding/going all out or the game takes longer than necessary to play strategy poker because of the chip's leaders patience in slow playing. ____________________ The Only PRPG Player who's running for rank 13 QUOTE Jan 14, 2008 7:35am Unlucky Universal Champion Joined: Jul 2007 Location: Some place where I can't date you Posts: 11 Lol, it's funny how several months later, I'm the one playing like a maniac. Ahh life... Well, Unlucky of 11-12-2007, duh! That's what maniacs do. If you factor in that most tight aggressive players only go in with strong hands against a maniac then you would realize that it in fact would be the maniac playing bingo against the lower stacked skilled player. Even worse, if the chip leader slow plays, he eventually loses momentum to the skilled players especially in a sng where he's bound to play bingo on a hand and lose badly resulting in the other player gaining the chip lead with the momentum favoring him. The only reason a slow player, assuming he's slow playing just due to the chip lead and not because he's utilizing his skills at setting up something, gets an advantage here is due to their chip lead. Once they lose that, it's almost impossible for them to regain that lead without gaining a good hand. Their opponents not going to buy into their bluff, they're going to hesitate with bluffs, everything's against them at that point except if they're really skilled and if they're really skilled, there's no reason for them to slow play that much. ____________________ The Only PRPG Player who's running for rank 13 QUOTE Feb 25, 2008 12:45pm xcornard7x Poser Joined: Feb 2008 Location: ENGLAND!!! Posts: 1 omg wot a pants thing to say 'why do you guys think' like come on we think coz u have to think to do anything!! QUOTE Feb 25, 2008 4:23pm vash191 World Hero Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 3 it aint all bluff thier is some math and odd precentage bluff more for real life games QUOTE Mar 1, 2008 3:20am spiketufball Wannabe Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 0 poker is pretty unpredictable but like the other guy said bluff can be used well and is a great way of winning poker but alot of it comes down to experience and knowing how the player plays QUOTE Mar 1, 2008 4:11pm Quistons_Report Poker God Joined: Sep 2007 Location: NORCAL Posts: 133 I NEVER EVER BLUFF. ____________________ U R BEAUTIFUL WHEN U SMILE QUOTE Mar 3, 2008 12:42pm Wargazm Beginner Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 2 That sounds about right to me. Theres alot of skill involved. Its not all luck, or bluffs. QUOTE May 12, 2008 2:53pm nicnaks3 Local Hero Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1 I don't bluff [1] 2